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Poster: vapors Date: Aug 10, 2010 2:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Touring With The Dead

I doubt that any statistics from us forumites could be very representative of all deadheads, but I was by any definition a tour head. I saw shows with increasing frequency from fall 1979 until 1992, and after that saw shows sporadically through the final tour. There were a couple of years where I only missed a handful of shows. As near as I can figure, I have been to at least 460 Dead shows, and something like 40 JGB. Amazing as it may sound, I only missed one, and I was inside that night but left for reasons that I choose not to mention here. I have crossed this country many times in this pursuit. Someday I may have the nerve to relate how I managed to pull this off, and it wouldn’t be a boastful disclosure for sure, although perhaps entertaining and enlightening to some.

The scene was always an important and necessary component of tour life, but for me it was ALWAYS about the music, and Getting Inside.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Aug 10, 2010 7:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Touring With The Dead

That really is amazing.
You're the person who should write the book. Do you need a ghost writer? It would be so much fun.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Aug 10, 2010 9:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Touring With The Dead

Do you do ghostwriting? That would be fun. I could do ghostwriting. We can divvy up the forumites. You've called vapors; who else wants a ghostwriter? I think Rob would be the one to do Cliff.

Then you and I can divide up the band. I don't think Bill will talk to me, cuz of that earlier thread, so you have dibs on Bill. That means I get to do Bob's book. Should be interesting. I could call it "The Brotherhood of the Traveling Pants."

My own tour stories (or "mini-tour") wouldn't be such an exciting read. Sort of like: Music! More music! Yet more music! It snows, it rains, friend sells PBJ sandwiches in the lot, then sleeps in his own cozy bed. More music! Not much of a book there, I'm afraid, though lots of good music, IMO. (Not being inclined to subject my own shows to critical analysis after the fact.) Vapors' book, though, should be great. Provided the statute of limitations has run out :-)

This post was modified by AltheaRose on 2010-08-11 04:05:41

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Poster: vapors Date: Aug 11, 2010 3:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Touring With The Dead

Yes, I have been waiting for the statute of limitations to run out!

The thought of a book that could evolve from my experiences with the band and the community that followed them has percolated in the back of my mind from time to time. While I believe I have shed much of the baggage that ended up accumulating from my experience and feel more clear than ever on some things, there are other people to consider. Of course it would be fun coming up with aliases.

Much of what I could say is pretty sensitive stuff, and having an overview of the forum past and present I would be hesitant in disclosing certain aspects of the story. I suppose I care what people think of me here, although that hasn’t always stopped me from posting! One slight amendment to my statement about always getting in – I was apprehended once before a show for vending without a license and thereby missed the show that night.

After all these years since tour ended I still cherish those moments with Jerry, as unappealing as they may sound to some today, and I have come to accept (and expect) that some of us will always put down the band’s later performances.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Aug 11, 2010 7:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Touring With The Dead

You really should write something. At the very least, to donate to the USC archives, for history's sake. Being rather obsessed with history and first-person narratives, I really do think it's important that somebody (hopefully LOTS of people) do that. And hey, the statute of limitations will have certainly run out by the time you get to be somebody's PhD project in 2067 ...

Or, on the other hand, you can just write a juicy book and make lots of money :-)

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Aug 11, 2010 8:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Touring With The Dead

vapors , we may have met along the way . Just to be in the same room as JG . Why do you think I got involved w/the Spinners to begin with ?
Be careful vapors . There is a vile book out there , Growing Up Dead . It's reach is far beyond its grasp . It paints with a broad brush , rather clumsily .
There is always sensitive information , v - beyond any aliases . Always will be . And that pesky wanting to be liked , or at least not shot upon . I mean , here with all your friends on IA , you could tell us anything . ;)
You , we all do , need to set time aside at some point and put this stuff down . Laugh if you must , but it is primary history .
O.K. v , you stinking Tour Rat .

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Aug 11, 2010 7:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Touring With The Dead

Lotta juicy hints in there :)

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Aug 11, 2010 7:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Touring With The Dead

>Do you do ghostwriting? That would be fun. I could do ghostwriting. We can divvy up the forumites. You've called vapors; who else wants a ghostwriter? I think Rob would be the one to do Cliff.

It really would be fun. I am not a writer, I'm an editor, though I'm a pretty full-service editor and can do heavy rewrites. In other words, I'm expert at critiquing others' prose, not so great at creating my own.

>Then you and I can divide up the band. I don't think Bill will talk to me, cuz of that earlier thread, so you have dibs on Bill. That means I get to do Bob's book.

Totally unfair!!! :) You can't have Bob, Bob is obviously the grand prize. I have been thinking about this for awhile and am ready to start as soon as Bob contacts me :)

Seriously though I hope someone with a lot of knowledge of the band does this SOON and I would be very excited to help out.

Traveling pants ha ha, my working title is "Bob Weir: Saint of Circumstance."

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Aug 11, 2010 7:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Touring With The Dead

How about, Bob Weir: Estimated Profit ...

Hmmm. No. Bob Weir: Underestimated Prophet. (He might like that better.)

Hey, we can work together. Ghostwriter, ghost editor ... all we need is a ghost researcher who actually knows something, in order to ask sensible questions. Maybe LiA is available?

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Aug 11, 2010 10:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Touring With The Dead

LOL that's the issue. I would love to do it but I don't know anything about anything, 'cept a few song lyrics.

Underestimated saint of circumstance? (As you can see, I'm wedded to saint of circumstance.)

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Aug 10, 2010 2:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Touring With The Dead

Stunned, amazed and jealous here. Pull up a chair and tell the stories sometime when you get a chance.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Aug 10, 2010 6:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Touring With The Dead

Wow. Impressive. Please tell stories some time! You, PG, Micah and others who really truly toured!

I always wanted to be a tourhead, but I was never cool enough. Pesky things like college and work kept getting in the way. I'd travel for shows, but not terribly far, so I never got to the West Coast or places like MSG or anything in New England. Luckily, though, there'd generally be a series of shows in a string, so I guess you could call that a "mini-tour." Roughly DC to Alpine Valley, the farthest being Iowa ... a TDIH, and a smoking show, actually!

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1982-08-10.sbd.miller.102577.flac16

Mostly 78-85, Midwest area, and then later in Colorado, but not traveling at that point cuz I had a real job (versus a job like pouring coffee that you can leave for a week). Last show was 92, then I was overseas, like now, and they somehow didn't come where I lived ...






This post was modified by AltheaRose on 2010-08-11 01:36:35